First, in response to Philo’s assertion that any State’s enactment of a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman is homophobic and ignorant. I beg to differ. It’s quite irksome that advocates for same-sex marriage insist on labeling any action contra the advancement of gay/lesbian rights as homophobic. Such careless slander does nothing but infuriate those who support traditional marriage and is deterimental to gay/lesbian proponents attempt to radicalize marriage. I doubt one would be labeled racist if he or she was against affirmative action–especially if that person was black (Ward Connelly comes to mind).
The raison d’etre that States have been forced to craft and enact constitutional amendments defining marriage between one man and one woman is to prevent judges from pulling a coup d’etat Massachusetts-style and forcing same-sex marriage upon them by fiat. In other words, marriage has always been defined between a man and a woman. It does not mean anymore than that. Period. To preserve that definition from the liberalization of a scant minority and protect it from judicial usurpation is hardly homophobic. To be un-homophobic, one has to support gay and lesbian relationships not merely tolerate their existence. To tolerate one’s lifestyle choice, whether gambling or homosexuality, is not an abnormal fear.
TST, there is a big difference with interracial marriage and homosexual “marriage”–the interracial marriage is a heterosexual marriage whereas the homosexual marriage is either two women or two men. That children adopted into homosexual relationships would be confused about their unique sex roles (particularly a boy with two lesbians or a girl with two gay men) is so obvious I find it hard to believe you actually argue to the contrary.
Philo, you argue that legalizing same-sex marriage would increase the 8 reasons I cited that describe traditional marriage’s unique contribution to society. I disagree. Let me just take number two–responsible procreation. Neither the union of two men or two women can produce offspring. Gay and lesbian relationships are biologically incapable of procreating. Procreation is “to bring (a living thing) into existence by the natural process of reproduction.” See Oxford American Dictionary 713 (1980). Neither in vitro fertilization nor adoption qualify as natural processes. These are mere substitutes for procreation. Same-sex couples can never be parents of the same child. They may adopt a child (in states that allow gay/lesbian adoption or finagle the adoption via second-parent adoption) and become the parents legally, but they can never be parents genetically of the same child.
On to proof about the negative impact of same-sex marriage on society and the family. Since 1998, the Netherlands have legalized same-sex marriage. That recognition has not strengthened marriage or the family unit. Patrick Fagan and Grace Smith of the Heritage Foundation authored an article discussing homosexual marriage’s impact on the Dutch entitled “The Transatlantic Divide on Marriage: Dutch Data and the U.S. Debate on Same-Sex Unions.” They quote Dutch social scientists as follows:
[The Dutch] increasingly regard marriage as no longer relevant because they have been persuaded that marriage is not connected to parenthood and that marriage and cohabitation are equally valid lifestyle choices . . .
In addition, according to data collected by Fagan and Smith, the marriage rate has declined and the divorce rate has increased after the introduction of same-sex marriage. Thus, if one where to look at The Netherlands experience, the introduction of same-sex marriage weakens rather than bolsters same-sex marriage.
Philo and TST, both of you are eager to dismiss the stake society has in the stability of its family structure. Perhaps, it is because you continue to ignore the societal interest in preserving traditional marriage and instead focus on marriage defined by the love of two people in a monogamous relationship (as alluded to in the NY Times editorial you quote from). Marriage might be about love on a individual level–but that is irrevelant. It is society’s interest, not the individual’s that matters. Moreover, if marriage is re-defined as the union of two persons enamored with one another, what justification does society have to prevent other couplings like father/son or mother/daughter from marrying? The laws of incest would not prevent such overt discrimination from two, three, or four people in love–if love is the rationale behind society’s legal encouragement of marriage.
Traditional marriage is about much more that love, from the societal point of view. It is about the union of one man and one woman who create and nuture offspring that form the next generation and provide a stable family infrastructure. A nation-state has no business promoting love. It does, however, need to promote the optimal familial structure to maintain its population and promote social stability. Historically, traditional marriage is that structure.
Why should our Nation dismantle the definition of traditional marriage to placate the desires of a small minority of gays and lesbians? Why should their lifestyle choice be promoted or encouraged within society? A man’s love for a man or a woman’s love for a woman does not warrant such a drastic and cataclysmic change.